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This week, I sat down with comedian, Gary Gulman.
Over 25 years in comedy, Gary Gulman has established himself as an eminent performer and peerless writer. His most recent standup special for HBO, “The Great Depresh,” is a universally acclaimed, tour de force look at mental illness, equal parts hilarious and inspiring.
A product of Boston, Gulman has been a scholarship college football player, an accountant, and a high school teacher. He has made countless television appearances as both a comedian and an actor. is this episode’s Humor for Humanity beneficiary.

Topics discussed in this episode include:

  • The trailer to Gary’s HBO special, the Great Depresh (01:43)
  • Gary’s experiences with processing depression through comedy (05:33)
  • The work ethic of a comedy writer (09:29)
  • Gulman’s Tips on comedy writing (12:30)
  • Gary talks about selling out Carnegie Hall (16:53)
  • Gary’s fascination with class, and how his new show is about the unprecedented income inequality in our country as it relates to his upbringing. (22:49)
  • Gary discusses (26:20)
  • Jimmy and Gary remember their history, and how Gary helped with a fundraiser during Jimmy’s run for Lieutenant Governor. (28:29)

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Transcript – Please note, this Transcript is AI Generated. It has not had the discerning ears of a real human to edit it, as such, there are bound to be a few errors.

Jimmy Tingle 0:05
Welcome, everybody to the Jimmy tingle show. I am Jimmy and I am so excited to have our guest today because over 25 years in comedy, my guest today Gary Gulman, Boston’s own has established himself as an eminent performer and peerless writer, and I can attest to that. Personally I’ve seen him in action. It is no wonder the New York Times wrote Gary has finally been recognized as one of the country’s strongest comedians. He has made countless television appearances both as a comedian as an actor, and is one of only a handful of comedians to perform get this on every single late night comedy program. Letterman. The Tonight Show, Fallon, Conan was the other one. Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel, and today tingle. That’s right, Liz. He has completed the circle with the tingle show. He’s made for a masterful television specials, including his most recent universally acclaimed stand up special for HBO, the Great Depression. This is an awesome show. It isn’t a tour de force, look at mental illness, which is equal parts hilarious and inspiring. And again, I’ve seen that and I agree, hilarious and inspiring, and in 2019, he appeared in the international blockbuster Joker, he will next be co starring with Amy Schumer, lovely Amy Schumer, in an upcoming Hulu comedy series life and Beth and is currently writing a memoir, a memoir, brothers and sisters for flat iron books tentatively titled K through 12. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to show you this clip from the HBO special, the Great Depression, and then I want to welcome my friend Gary Goldman to the show, please roll this clip from HBOs the Great Depression.

Gary Gulman 1:55
I have no idea how this is going to go. It’s impossible that the subject isn’t even funny. It was a long time since I shot my last special I got very sick with the depression. I grew up in the 70s. And the only antidepressants we had access to was snap out of it. And what have you got to be depressed about that was the second leading brand of antidepressants. A happy kid you couldn’t find always had a smile on his face. So how could I detect anything? This is a book I wrote in in second grade was called The Lonely Tree. No to anybody with a small amount of psychology knowledge you would know this was a cry for help. I know my depression is in remission, and I’m only comfortable talking about it now because I come out the other side I want to be therapy saved my life. I believe I broke my therapist. I was leaving his office and I was shutting the door and I heard him go. days you feel great. It’s interesting because Millennials take so much flak from middle aged men talking about participation trophies. Their argument is how are they going to learn how to lose? How are they going to learn how to lose? Oh, they’ll get some practice. Be familiar at all with life. Take it as you go.

Jimmy Tingle 3:39
Please welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen. The one the only Boston zone my friend soon to be yours, Gary Gulman. Hey, Gary.

Gary Gulman 3:48
Hi, Jimmy. Thanks, man. I hadn’t seen that clip. And while I’m welling up a little because that that song is actually it was written and performed by a friend of mine, somebody I met during the process of writing and touring that this guy named Andy frasco. And he struggles with some mood disorders. And he wrote that in it’s a song sort of, to himself. And it resonated with myself and the director and somebody I put together the special with really hits me so thanks for for putting that on here.

Jimmy Tingle 4:24
Of course, Gary. Well, it’s a wonderful song and the specialist phenomenal. And I have to tell you seeing your mother in the special. First of all, I’m a huge fan of friend but a huge fan. And my wife and I went to the show when you were working this out before you film The Great Depression. We saw it live at the Wilbur theater. And after the show. We were all out in the sidewalk and there was about I’d say 10 or 15 Comics there who had just come on their own, you know, individually and we were all out in the sidewalk, conversing about how great the Show was, and who walks out but your mother. And we all and we all surround her. And we’re telling her how wonderful it is. And she was telling us how wonderful it was, she loved it, she couldn’t believe it, she was so happy and so proud. And we were all around him. And it was just great to see her there meeting her in person. And then seeing her in the film is fantastic. It was a wonderful moment to see all the comics come out and to see your mom there. And I know you have family members, etc. So that was a really, really special moment. But I have to ask you, Gary, the process of taking a subject like that, of depression, and going to the next level, not only coming out publicly about it, but to process that through comedy for people when you were doing that, in the first scene in that clip, you’re saying I don’t even know if this is going to be funny what was going through your mind.

Gary Gulman 5:54
At that point in that process. I had been talking about my depression for a long time. That night, I was going out to talk about for the first time having had electroconvulsive therapy. So we were going to get me talking about electroconvulsive therapy on camera for the first time and that I was concerned with because I really, I was convinced people are gonna be like, This is really scary, and we’re embarrassed for him. And please don’t talk about this. And in reality, they weren’t upset by it. It didn’t it didn’t bomb them out. As long as it was funny. They were fine with it. And it was kind of funny the first night, and then I figured out different ways. And I I mean, I learned from watching you and the other guys over the years. I mean, that’s the great thing about about coming up in Boston, is you would see guys who had been doing it a while, keep doing it, and improving and doing well. But also doing things that didn’t work. Yep. And not lashing out at the crowd. Here’s a good thing is sometimes you do a joke, and it doesn’t work. And you know, it’s not me. It’s the crowd. That’s important. And then sometimes you have to know, oh, it’s it’s the joke. It’s not good enough. I need to change it. You need to learn. It’s important that so it’s, it’s very difficult. But also, you are always there to answer questions such as How do I know when to just give up on a joke or to keep doing it. I mean, the guys were just so generous you and Brian Kiley and Barry Crimmins, and we’re just so generous. We’re all standing on the shoulders of giants, because as much as we love to get laughs from the audience, but what you really want is to be appreciated by the people that you appreciate the other mediums.

Jimmy Tingle 8:01
I agree, Gary, and thank you so much for the kind words, and I have to tell you the Boston scene, you’re right, it makes you better because there are a lot of good people who are pretty generous with their feedback. But also you have to go after them on stage. So you have to, yes, your game has to be brought up a few notches if you’re going to follow these folks. So you do learn it’s like basketball. I know you play a lot of basketball. When you play with good people, you get better. Yes. And that’s how the scene here in Boston was. And in terms of the jokes, when do you know it’s so hard to determine? Oh, geez, that joke didn’t work. Maybe it’s them. And after, like 10 times, maybe it’s me, maybe it is the joke. I’m all for 10 I’ve been up at the play 10 times with this joke. I gotta change. Maybe the premise isn’t quite right. Right. But I have to tell you one of the things that I love about what you do, and the way you do it is you would come into the comedy studio, and I appreciate this, you’re in your 50s I’m in my 60s. And I am easily two to three times older than everybody in the audience at teach at these young clubs. And you would come in as a veteran comic. And we’d be constantly trying new things, constantly trying constantly working out material, and all of that material in the Great Depression. A lot of it I saw you worked out at the Comedy studio. So one of the things that I love about you, not only the intelligence and the creativity, but is the work ethic. And where do you get that Gary? I mean, are you using like your sports training to just get better at comedy and going out there every night and practicing?

Gary Gulman 9:44
Absolutely. I mean, for me it was sports and I’m sure sure there are a number of other areas where if you have a if you have a child, you can instill this in them but I found with boards the great thing that Sports teaches you is that if you go out every day and you put in some effort, you will notice improvement I look back on fondly now, because it’s interesting was that I had moved back in to my mom’s house. Because I had been hospitalized in the psychiatric ward, I didn’t think I was going to be able to continuing comedy, I was concerned about paying rent and things like that. So I wanted to sort of reset my life. So I moved back into my mom’s house in Peabody, Massachusetts, where I grew up, I was sleeping in the same bed that I slept in, in high school. And it sounds nuts to me now, but at the time, it seemed like a reasonable move, I put next to my bed, a quote from the playwright and author Samuel Beckett, and it said, Try, ever try, try to ever failed, try again, fail again, fail better. And that relieved me of all the pain of a joke that doesn’t work, which used to cripple me, I would bomb onstage, and I wouldn’t be able to get out of bed the next day. And then it became know bombing on stage is how you’re going to get better, you’re gonna miss 1000 shots. But the next day, you’ll miss 999 shots, and the next day 900 shots, and you’ll get better. So trying out new jokes and new approaches. So if I get one sentence that works, the next day, maybe I’ll get two sentences. Well,

Jimmy Tingle 11:24
it really shows Gary and it has worked for you. And I know the feeling we’re talking about. You just want to get on stage because stage time is crucial. You can write all you want in your room, and the notebook or whatever the test is, how is this going to be received by 100? Strangers? Yeah, 500 strangers. I was on with Colin Quinn a couple of weeks ago, he said the same thing. He goes, I hate bombing. I hate getting up there and trying stuff and it doesn’t work. There’s no feeling as bad. It’s like being at the dinner table. For those of you who are not comics, it’s like being at the dinner table or in front of like, maybe your company outing you say something you think is hilarious. And everybody else looks at you like, wow, that was really out of place. I can’t believe Did you hear what he just said? You cringe. And you, you retract into yourself? Yeah. But anyway, but that’s what you got to do when it’s like lifting weights or doing push ups or running laps or whatever it is. You got to keep doing it to to improve another one of the things that I love about you is not only the work ethic, but you’re very generous with sharing what you’ve learned. And you were doing something called tips on Twitter. Tell me about tips on Twitter. And you did like hundreds of them, right?

Gary Gulman 12:38
Yeah, I did. I think 366 Wow. It started on like December 30. I think 2018 or 19 that I drank a lot of coffee. And I get very ambitious. And I said to my wife, what do you think that people would say if I offered a tip a day about comedy, and she said they would love it? And so I said okay, for the next year, I’m gonna give a tip every day. I thought people would say, Well, who the hell are you to offer this but then people really am braced. I was really pleased by that because I’m insecure about those things. So that was really nice. I was feeling very good. I had been recovering gradually from my very deep depression. And so I wanted a way to show gratitude and give back for the immense amount of help and guidance I had been given by people like you and Paul D’Angelo, and Don Gavin Steve Sweeney and Kenny Rogers sin and Lenny Clark and Tony v. And Barry Crimmins and bobcat. I mean, so many. So many Boston Guys, when I was coming up with the Great Depression, Judd Apatow raised his hand out and helped me up. So I mean, none of us do it by ourselves. We all have so much help. I mean, the guy who tells you he did it by myself is just the either a liar or a very selfish narcissist. You can’t do it by yourself. What

Jimmy Tingle 14:03
did you call them? What was the official name of them? I call them government’s tips, Commons tips. But I have to tell you, Gary, I can’t tell you how many people saw that other comics and go, aren’t these awesome? The great thing about those tips were, you could apply it not only to comedy, but you could apply it almost to anything. It’s like, you know, write more, that was like your big thing that every tip you would say write more, write more. And it encouraged me to write more and encouraged a lot of people to write more. And it was always really just rare, very insightful, and just helpful.

Gary Gulman 14:35
Yeah, I think that the other thing with teaching is that a lot of times, you’re also reinforcing your own lessons, the things you need to know. So it also got me to do the things that I lost track of, like, for instance, one of my favorite ones is be the comedian, you would want to see, I mean, everything I’m looking at in your set is a reflection of what kind of comedy you enjoy, which is a person who takes it seriously, a person who puts on a show and a person who is professional, and is straightforward. And who do I compare this to? When I say, Oh, I don’t know anybody like this. That was the great thing about Boston comedy. When I was coming up, you would see everyone had their own style, then you would see the different comedians you will be and you would say, this is this is somebody who’s a disciple of Jimmy tingle. This is the disciple of Gavin, this is a disciple of Lenny, this is a disciple of of kremens. And it was so interesting. Yeah,

Jimmy Tingle 15:36
Gary, it’s so interesting that you say that, because when I was coming up, back in the day, when we all first started, a year was like, a long time to be ahead of somebody. So like, for example, so example, I started in 1980. But Barry Crimmins probably started maybe 77, maybe 78 in upstate New York, when he started, I think, 7879 they had a couple of years on me. So your point about Gavin and Sweeney, and all these guys, I was the daytime bar turned down at the dining hall, right? I didn’t study comedy or go to school for it. These were like the teachers. So inadvertently, my first year they go whoa, Geez, that sounds too much like Gavin. That’s like, that’s like Kremlin’s that’s like clock. So you really, you don’t want to copy them, but you are influenced by them. And you eventually find your own voice. That was my experience as the bartender at the dining hall when all those guys will come on up. And Steven writes another one, of course, and Paula Poundstone. Just fabulous. Yeah, fabulous comics, Mike McDonald, Mike Donovan. All these guys. Were just wonderful. But, Gary, I want to know about your writing process, because I know you’re working on a new show now. And you’re touring that, first of all, Carnegie Hall, you sold out Carnegie Hall, how was that? It was

Gary Gulman 16:57
perfect in every way. It’s interesting, because, you know, from going on TV shows that you get to the building and you and you think well, everything’s much smaller than I had pictured. And it’s a lot older, and they haven’t really kept up with maintenance. But everything about Carnegie Hall is like it’s been either polished or refurbished in the last 48 hours. It was incredible. I mean, it felt like I was the first person to ever set foot in my dressing room. It was it was extraordinary. I walked out there, I had the chills, the audience was so appreciative. And I just had the most extraordinary time. And with regards to my process, I try not to spend the day listening to music or podcasts or books or anything in my ears, I try to sort of ruminate over over the jokes I’m working on and think and then I’ll write things down. The other thing is that I I spend a lot of time transcribing shows and while I’m transcribing them, I’ll pause and think oh, I, I think a better word here is a synonym for this rather than this particular word. My favorite Mark Twain quote is the difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and the lightning Bob. So one word can make the entire difference in jokes. So I’ll say no, the best word right here. So I’ll change that. And then try it out that night. I mean, that’s the beautiful part of living in New York City is that I can go on at least once each night and try out a new joke. And then over six months, nine months, I’m on the road and tweaking and adding things. And this came from living in Los Angeles, where I would only get two shows a week, I didn’t want to take a chance of trying out a new joke and having a bomb. So I would add something new to an old joke that work if a bomb that was just a sentence. And so I would just make really long jokes. So that was my process. And then my process became my style. So I have these very long jokes. And people will will think of me as the guy who tells really long jokes, but that just became a thing where I didn’t want to. I didn’t want to look bad for too long. Yeah,

Jimmy Tingle 19:15
man. It’s tough. Why, Gary, why could you only get on a couple of times a week in LA, compared to New York,

Gary Gulman 19:22
there were too few clubs, and too many celebrities. The good thing was that I enrolled in an in an Acting Program. So I would take acting classes four nights a week, and that was helpful kept me sane, and it gave me a social life because the actors I was involved with, they would go out to eat after the classes and so I had friends and that was helpful, but otherwise I would have lost my mind.

Jimmy Tingle 19:46
Right? I always found the LA audiences a tough, yes, the New York audiences. They’re centered. They’re in New York. They know who they are. They know where they live. They know where they came from. You know, they’re in in the mix, you know they’re in the mix of leather walking everywhere. Not everybody’s in a car. Yeah, they’re on the train. There’s a communal feeling in New York, LA. It’s just a different vibe. It was just hard to get that warmth from them. That was my experience anyway, definitely. When you’re working out in New York, where do you go?

Gary Gulman 20:19
I go to comedy cellar Gotham Comedy Club. That’s just a really nice club in the Upper West Side called the West Side Comedy Club. And then there are a few places in Brooklyn that I go to I go to union hall, I go to this place called Little field. And then this other place called the bell house. Brooklyn is really terrific. I mean, every place you go now has some sort of vibe attached to it. But I never find that’s the case. Like they’re all these are only hipsters, and they only laugh at jokes that are this, but that’s not really the case. I find that you can’t be racist and sexist anywhere. But that’s not a bad night.

Jimmy Tingle 21:00
That’s a good thing. The culture is evolving. Yeah, you’re absolutely right. Yeah. And you know what’s cool. One of the clubs here in Boston, we both are big fans of a comedy studio. I go work out there all the time I go up to giggles, my clock and Lenny clocks room up there. When one, I go to the open mics, and I love it. Because like I said earlier, I’m by far the oldest, usually the oldest comic on the bill. And like I said, sometimes twice as old as the audience. But if you can make these people in their 20s laugh, it’s like you said they’re not judgmental about age or anything. Just be funny. Just go out and make them laugh. And most people are very open to whatever you got to say, just do the job.

Gary Gulman 21:44
Yeah, I think that Carlin was able to reach young people, college people at every point in his career into his 70s because he kept an open mind. And he kept going to the clubs, and he never became obsolete. And he didn’t do that kids these days humor. And I think that’s the difference because the kids these days humor is not, is not No, every generation has whined about the kids these days. And it’s a nail in your coffin.

Jimmy Tingle 22:18
It’s a little cranky. There’s a famous quote from Socrates, who said I fear to leave the future in the hands of the youth of today. This is Socrates whatever that was, that was like 1000 BC or something, whatever it was Socrates a little cranky, suck, little cranky. Be like Plato be more forward thinking or Aristotle. Yeah, Kids Are All Right. But tell me about the new show. Gary,

Gary Gulman 22:49
the show I’m working on now is basically about the unprecedented income inequality in our country as it relates to my upbringing when they were I mean, insanely rich people, but the disparity wasn’t as poisonous. I’ve also always been fascinated by class. And I’ve always been quite resentful of the rich, which is really a character flaw in me, but also a character flaw and a lot of rich people in that I think they behave like, like pigs.

Jimmy Tingle 23:27
Gary, one of the funniest things I remember from you working out at the studio at the Comedy studio, I was not that familiar with your work there. And I got more familiar with it by seeing you there. You say? I’m from a very

Gary Gulman 23:41
rare and unusual sector.

Jimmy Tingle 23:45
Very unusual sect of Judaism. Poor. Yes. The audience laugh. It was really hilarious. Tell us about that. Because you talked about wanting to play hockey as a kid and your parents discouraging you from it. It’s

Gary Gulman 24:03
interesting, because there’s kind of a shame of belonging to a group of people who aren’t known stereotypically for having something and then not having that thing. I mean, I don’t know how to describe it. I mean, this is the thing is that my family was obsessed with material things and tucked in long for wealth, and we were broke all the time. And my mother would make jokes about it. She would say the next time I marry I’ll marry for love the love of money, which was probably an old Joker, or something like that. And we would play the lottery and we would dream and my mother would take us for rides in neighborhoods where there were big homes and mansions and we would long for this and it just, it warped our values and we had these adages, like it’s just as easy to marry a rich woman. And I mean, luckily, my father’s values were very good. And I think it might be an immigrant thing where immigrants are so used of financial insecurity that they become workaholics and become devoted to their jobs expressing their success through material, material gains. And I think, rather than guaranteeing happiness, I think it gets in the way of happiness. And I’ve never been really rich, but there’s been no amount of money where I’ve ever felt financially secure. I’ve been much poorer than I am now. And just as happy. It’s always been when I felt that I had a good relationship and good friends, and that I had a dream or something that I was working towards that I was happy about and hopeful about,

Jimmy Tingle 25:52
right, this new tool that you’re working on, I saw excerpts of it out in Beverly, it’s interesting that you’re calling her the bone on third base tour, hilariously chronicling your impoverished childhood on food stamps, free lunch and welfare checks while skewing the current tale of two city X wealth gap. How is that working for you? Do you find it cathartic? Do you find like you’re making your points as well as getting laughs

Gary Gulman 26:20
I get a lot of laughs. What I need to do now is put together the narrative that I had in the Great Depression. With the Great Depression, I was able to use the documentary footage to put together the narrative of how I went from breakdown and hospitalization to my recovery. Here, I would like to explain maybe what we’re up against, and perhaps what we can do individually, which is why think I shared with you, the charity that I’m dedicated to, it’s called, they have a list of charities that save the most lives, they figured out that there are certain charities that the percentage of your money goes to saving lives, like doesn’t go to the overhead doesn’t go to paying the the CEOs. And so the best money can go to malaria nets in Africa to keep kids from getting malaria and dying. There’s the Helen Keller International, which gives kids vitamin A supplements that it cures blindness. So basically, I give most of my charity to these organizations because they do the most good

Jimmy Tingle 27:40
that was great, Gary and that give Will be the human for humanity, charity for this particular show, every show that we do, we tried to have a an organization that we pitch and promote and highlight. So if people want to give and have the means to we try to encourage that, because this is a, quote, human for humanity production. And you know about human for humanity. I think that I started it about 10 years ago. And it’s going to another level now because we can get on Zoom. And we don’t have to do live shows. We can do shows like this, and interviews and you can reach theoretically a lot more people than the live performances give as our human for humanity, nonprofit that was supporting this week. So that’s a great one. Gary, thank you for bringing that up.

Gary Gulman 28:29
Yeah, I want to tell you how much of an example and someone I admire so much you are because you obviously your comedy means so much to me, but your life work and your community outreach when you ran for lieutenant governor and your your work as an advocate and more than just a comedian. You’re a valuable member of the community, the comedy community and the Commonwealth community. And it’s such a great role model for us younger and getting older.

Jimmy Tingle 29:03
Well, thank you, Gary. And for the folks watching today. Gary was so generous. Gary did a fundraiser for me at the barn. And David squares, some of all the great Irish Pub, the Baron in the backroom of the bar, and they have a wonderful stage and entertainment venue. And we did a fundraiser when I ran for lieutenant governor. And Gary, I think you’ll be proud to know first time running for lieutenant governor, you did that benefit. Paula Poundstone did a fundraiser for me. We got 213,313 votes first time one. And 213,313 votes came in second place. Gary second place extraordinaire. The good news, the bad news, Gary two person race. We got the silver medal is what I’m trying to say.

Gary Gulman 29:48
It’s extraordinary. Jimmy. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Ezra Klein at all, but he just had this woman on who I think she has a book about the importance of right Running for something running for anything, just these, these local races are so significant and so important. I

Jimmy Tingle 30:07
just did a podcast last night was talking about the importance of elected officials. I think one thing we have to do as a society is kind of chill on the demonization of like elected officials and people, you know, people are trying their best, we’re in a pandemic, they’re trying their best. I just, I’m gonna try to advocate for people and help the people I see in office, we’re trying to do the most good for the most people and the most logical way and just try to promote peace and justice and fairness and our society. And I know you feel the same way, every place that you’re going to is at Gary

Gary Gulman 30:46
I think for the New England, people I’ll be at, there’s a Ridgefield, Connecticut date, there’s a Foxwoods date, and I’m working on Providence, I think as well. So that that will be really fun. Man, I love being back out on the road. I mean, we’ve taken for granted,

Jimmy Tingle 31:04
there’s nothing like being back on stage. It takes a while it’s been taken a while to get back out there. But the audiences love it as well, the audience I find it very appreciative. Would you agree?

Gary Gulman 31:14
Yes. I mean, I can’t do the meet and greets any warm. I’m concerned about meeting so many people. But the feedback on line is has been more robust than usual.

Jimmy Tingle 31:25
That’s awesome. Well, Gary, thanks a million for joining us today. And again, we’re honored to have you you’re a real power of example, in not only in the comedy world, but in the mental health profession in the mental health world and people who are in recovery, who are suffering from depression or trying to overcome any kind of addiction. The show that’s on HBO, the Great Depression, I highly recommend it. There’ll be a link to that. In our show notes. There’s a link to give in our show notes, that is the humor for humanity, charity that we’re supporting with this broadcast, and there’ll be a link to Gary You can see him in Ridgefield, Connecticut, you can see him in Foxwoods, Connecticut, and you can see him hopefully out in Rhode Island soon and Providence and we’d love you when you come back to Massachusetts. We’ll probably see what the Wilbur again. My wife and I have gone to the last two or three shows that you did at the Wilbur my wife Catherine says hello. She loves you as well. It’s so funny, Gary. I’ll come home from work. I’ll be doing my sets. And I’ll come home and my wife is watching on Netflix. He’s watching Gary Gulman she’s watching John Mulaney Mulaney loves you. Loves John Mulaney loves Jim Gaffigan. And Sebastian Sebastian is great. Gallman Gaffigan. And, and I come home and I’m seeing and watching these every night. It’s I can’t believe it. We’ve been married 26 years my wife has seen other comics. I tried to keep my head up Gary. I tried to be Protestant honey, I worked out a new bit come down to see me at the kami studio. Yeah, I love that she has great taste. She does. She’s the greatest and one of the reasons we hit it off Gary. She has a wonderful sense of humor. And she laughed at stuff. We laugh all the time. And she’s really really funny. And we just love you. We think the world of you. And she goes he’s so adorable. He’s so adorable. What about me? What about me? I’m the Barney Rubble of comedy. What about me?

Gary Gulman 33:32
Oh, you mean Barney and Barney Rubble of comedy. He was a comedic actor.

Jimmy Tingle 33:49
It’s great to see you, Gary. Continue to love you too. Man. Thank you so much for spending so much time with us today. Man. We’ll put all the stuff in the notes. Continued success. Stay strong. Stay safe. Thank you so much.

Gary Gulman 34:03
All right. Say hi to Catherine. Bye bye. Yeah.

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